Misguided President

on Jun 08, 2005

Iraq did not attack the US. Why did we attack a country that had nothing to do with attacking America? That is like attacking Mexico after Dec 7, 1941.

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The Original Vune

on Jun 08, 2005

I never intended this to be an Iraq war discussion. I think we are getting distracted away from what I wanted talk about which was the isue of debt and trade laws in Africa and the developing world.

Do you have any thoughts on that?

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Island Dog

on Jun 08, 2005

Are you meaning to present yourself as an American caricature?

No, what are you trying to present yourself as? Michael Moore maybe?

Iraq did not attack the US. Why did we attack a country that had nothing to do with attacking America? That is like attacking Mexico after Dec 7, 1941.

The reasons were given. Your quote is something I read at the DU all the time. Democrats said Iraq had WMD's, they were are a threat to America, and that Saddam had to be removed. Are you telling me the democrats lied?

I never intended this to be an Iraq war discussion. I think we are getting distracted away from what I wanted talk about which was the isue of debt and trade laws in Africa and the developing world.

Do you have any thoughts on that?

Sure. I think other countries should contribute and stop running to the U.S.

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COL Gene

on Jun 08, 2005

We have a greater obligation to stop adding to the debt in this country and creating a trade policy that is fair to American workers before deling with third world trade and debt. We are the greatest debt and have the largest trade problem of any nation on earth and Bush has done more to add to these problems then ANY President in history! His tax and fiacal policy are adding to the debt and he continues with the free trade policy that failed during the Clinton administration. Our children and grandchildren will be paying for the Bush fiscal and trade policies for decades!

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drmiler

on Jun 08, 2005

#15 by The Original Vune
Wednesday, June 08, 2005

At best it's a tired old arguement that has been shown to be a false assumption many times over!

Were you talking about oil here, or the presence of WMDs, or the immediate threat posed by Iraq, or maybe the links between Saddam and Al Quaeda?

War for oil.

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Island Dog

on Jun 08, 2005

We have a greater obligation to stop adding to the debt in this country and creating a trade policy that is fair to American workers before deling with third world trade and debt. We are the greatest debt and have the largest trade problem of any nation on earth and Bush has done more to add to these problems then ANY President in history! His tax and fiacal policy are adding to the debt and he continues with the free trade policy that failed during the Clinton administration. Our children and grandchildren will be paying for the Bush fiscal and trade policies for decades!

I have to look at the date of your posts because they are all the same.

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COL Gene

on Jun 08, 2005

this Blog was about the policies of Bush and how misguided he and the people who adviuse him are from reality. the Bushies NEVER want to accept that what Bush is doing does not make sense and is not in our best interests. The news shows today again are talking about how the American public has turned away from Bush and what he is doing. Both Bush and Congress are out of sink with what is most important to the majority of Ameicans.

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zinkadoodle

on Jun 08, 2005

You cannot go after every dictator at the same time, you have to start somewhere.

Is that what we're doing? Oh God, forgive us for we have sinned.......... and are continuing to sin.

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Moderateman

on Jun 08, 2005

last time I check gene { I refuse to adress you as col.} shooting at an american warplane IS AN ACT OF WAR. but I am sure you will say they did not shoot any warplanes down so it does not count.

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Island Dog

on Jun 08, 2005

the Bushies NEVER want to accept that what Bush is doing does not make sense and is not in our best interests.

And people like you never accept anything else except "blame Bush".

s that what we're doing? Oh God, forgive us for we have sinned.......... and are continuing to sin.

So you would prefer dictator stay in power?

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COL Gene

on Jun 08, 2005

Moderateman

Not when the aircraft is flying over your country. If Russia sent combat aircraft to control our population the act of flying across America would be the act of war not trying to shoot them down. You are so full of BS. The Iraq War was a war of choice not because we were attacked or in danger from Iraq. History will record this was as an American error.

IslandDog

I just blame Bush for the things he is doing that are harming our country. There just seems to be a never ending string of those things. The deficit, trade problems, lack of an effective energy policy, lack of border and port security, lack of a policy to fix Social Security , Medicare and Medicade, the war in Iraq etc.

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drmiler

on Jun 08, 2005

#41 by COL Gene
Wednesday, June 08, 2005

Moderateman

Not when the aircraft is flying over your country. If Russia sent combat aircraft to control our population the act of flying across America would be the act of war not trying to shoot them down. You are so full of BS. The Iraq War was a war of choice not because we were attacked or in danger from Iraq. History will record this was as an American error.

YOUR the one full of it around here bud. Our planes were not there for ANY other reason than enforcing a "UN" no fly zone!

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The Original Vune

on Jun 09, 2005

No, what are you trying to present yourself as? Michael Moore maybe?

Just because I don't agree with the Bush administration does not mean I am a "Moore-ite". You seem incapable of seeing the other side of the argument in a rational way.

So you would prefer dictator stay in power?

Scary talk! I think Imissed the meeting where America was given juristiction over the whole world and appointed "Team America: World Police" ...........sounds familiar.......

War for oil.

Have you heard of saracasm?

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COL Gene

on Jun 09, 2005

What made the US the enforcement agent of the UN? The fact remains, the Iraq War was an elective war not a war to protect this country from danger like WWI, WWII or Korea. It was the Bush choice and it has turned out badely. It was not Quick, clean or low cost in lives or dollars the way Bush said it would be. We have created a major area for future terrorists to plan attacks aginst us. Some way to make us safer!

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drmiler

on Jun 09, 2005

#44 by COL Gene
Thursday, June 09, 2005

What made the US the enforcement agent of the UN?

Just an FYI yo-yo...we were NOT the only ones enforcing that no-fly! I don't know where you've been lately, but maybe you should just crawl back into whatever hole it is you crawled from.